I'd like your opinion on a social distancing matter.

"Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo" (rustyvandura) 03/16/2020 at 13:54 • Filed to: None

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This morning, I went to the “gym.” Really, I’d call it more of an exercise studio. They’re limiting the class sizes to ten people, but it’s hard to maintain a six-foot buffer because of available space. I got to thinking that with people exercising and huffing and puffing, isn’t that an undue risk? I can go back during the day for “open gym,” when normally, I’d be about the only person there. I’m planning on doing that. What are your thoughts?

Here is a B-36 Peacemaker. Six turning, four burning.

ttyymmnn > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 03/16/2020 at 13:58

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I think you’d be best off doing jumping jacks in your living room for the time being.

OPPOsaurus WRX > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 03/16/2020 at 13:59

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Yea, I have a pick-up volleyball game Wednesday.  I'm really nervous about going.  To make it worse, I've skipped the last 3 weeks with A leg injury so I REALLY want to go but really think I shouldn't

Ash78, voting early and often > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 03/16/2020 at 13:59

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I work out alone, haven’t been to a gym in a few years. In hindsight, gyms feel like having cable — not a bad idea, but far from necessary once you wean off of it. I would not personally want to go to a gym at the moment, but if I were single and had no contact with the sick or elderly, I might consider it.

Related - After just 5 minutes of chatting yesterday, my 9-year-old uttered the phrase out of thin air: “So it went B-17, B-29, B-36, then B-52?”

Basically! This homeschooling thing is already working. And that concludes our unit on the Army Air Force and Strategic Air Command.

If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 03/16/2020 at 13:59

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Definitely. Makes sense to me that more vigorous lung activity would increase the range of any airborne virii (virae?) that someone emits. At the very least ex ercise is more likely to aggravate a coughing fit.

ttyymmnn > Ash78, voting early and often 03/16/2020 at 14:03

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If you haven’t taught your 9yo about the B-47, you have failed at parenting.

Not really, but....

Future next gen S2000 owner > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 03/16/2020 at 14:05

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What is the “gym” you speak of?

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Future next gen S2000 owner 03/16/2020 at 14:08

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It’s a place called Body Mechanix that’s run in a commercial strip.

Ash78, voting early and often > ttyymmnn 03/16/2020 at 14:08

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LOL. I didn’t want to confuse him just yet . We just covered the basic idea of nuclear deterrence, which he understood pretty well (in discussing how the B-36 was just a big flex, not for actually dropping bombs...at least not in practice).

But he can already tell you about how the US and Russian space programs came heavily from ex- Nazis. Practical learning.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent 03/16/2020 at 14:09

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There’s a broad range of reaction to events nowadays and people reacting to peoples’ reactions. But I think I need to stay away from there for a spell of time.

ttyymmnn > Ash78, voting early and often 03/16/2020 at 14:11

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I’ve been surfing through the NASA flickr feed. Lots of pictures of WVB.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > OPPOsaurus WRX 03/16/2020 at 14:11

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The game should probably not be held at all if it’s indoors. Outdoors, I’d view it differently.

ttyymmnn > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 03/16/2020 at 14:13

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Needs more NB-36H.

user314 > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 03/16/2020 at 14:16

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Of course, given the proclivities of both engine types, it usually devolved to “two turning, two burning, two smoking, two choking, and two more unaccounted for.”  

VincentMalamute-Kim > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 03/16/2020 at 14:18

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You shouldn’t go to the class. Open gym is OK. Wipe down surfaces. But there may be more people at the open gym now. Remember there may be contagious people who show no symptoms. And people who haven’t developed the symptoms yet. We don’t have enough testing so assume there’s a lot more cases out there.

Two considerations:

1. Personal: You getting the virus. Most likely mild-moderate symptoms. Probably not a big deal but a decent chance of being miserable for two weeks- I don’t need that.

2. Societal: Not practicing social distancing means you’re possibly contributing to the spread and making efforts to ‘flatten the curve’ to allow our system to manage the severe cases harder. Increasing the risk to the vulnerable. Not looking out for the greater good.

B-36 is nuts. You never hear about those. Who thought up that one?

Roundbadge > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 03/16/2020 at 14:18

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The two nearest rec centers to me (NE Ohio) are closed indefinitely. I’m a little shocked the governor hasn’t just flat quarantined us all yet...but then again our primary is tomorrow. I think tighter lockdowns are coming later this week.

Ash78, voting early and often > OPPOsaurus WRX 03/16/2020 at 14:26

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Each player in his own pickup? Or sharing the trucks?

CB > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 03/16/2020 at 14:28

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Our workplace has banned using our gyms, so yeah, they should really all be closed.

AMGtech - now with more recalls! > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 03/16/2020 at 14:35

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I definitely want to spend time in a place covered in bodily fluids during a pandemic!

DipodomysDeserti > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 03/16/2020 at 14:38

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I t hink it’s crazy they haven’t closed it yet, especially in a place with a dense population like the Bay Area. Even my wife’s yoga studio closed.

Highlander-Datsuns are Forever > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 03/16/2020 at 14:40

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A group class like that doesn’t seem like the best idea. I’d just grab a dog and go for a long walk. 

Just Jeepin' > OPPOsaurus WRX 03/16/2020 at 14:54

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Here’s why you shouldn’t: if you’re injured, you’re facing the prospect of hospitalization, which is the last thing you want now, and certainly won’t want in a week or two.

Only Vespas... > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 03/16/2020 at 14:56

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Aw Jeeze. My fencing club just closed. Before it did it was off limits for older guys like me. I’m going for a bike ride later this evening. How else  am I to keep my girlish figure?

Turbineguy: Nom de Zoom > Ash78, voting early and often 03/16/2020 at 15:09

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The B-24, B-25, and B-26 would like a word...

Turbineguy: Nom de Zoom > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 03/16/2020 at 15:12

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I worked out last night from 930-1100. I was the only one there, it was awesome. Today I’m reading the mgm t company is locking down the fitness center today, so I’m SOL. Lucky I have a *few* dumbells at home I can use until the Plague of 2020 has passed.

Ash78, voting early and often > Turbineguy: Nom de Zoom 03/16/2020 at 15:14

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I think t he connection he drew was in the “- Fortress” nicknaming. Of course, the B-36 kind of ruined it. Plus the B-29 was technically a replacement for the 17, even though they overlapped, and served mostly in two different theatres....details.

Turbineguy: Nom de Zoom > Ash78, voting early and often 03/16/2020 at 15:18

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Aha. That little nugget escaped me. Carry on.

haveacarortwoorthree2 > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 03/16/2020 at 15:25

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Good lord man, stay out of the gym!

GLiddy > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 03/16/2020 at 15:38

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The whole crowd size limitation is not about keeping you from getting sick, its about letting you get sick some other time. Just like the old statistical example that if you put like 75  random people in a room, the chances are nearly 100% that two of them share a birthday, if you put 20 people in a room, the chances of someone having transmissible CV are probably like 3x the chance than if you only have 10. They still aren’t zero.  If you want to avoid getting sick, your exposure to other people should be NONE.

Just my SWAG analysis of the situation.

facw > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 03/16/2020 at 15:42

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Just got back from physical therapy at a large gym. Apparently they are limiting the number of people in the gym area for social distancing reasons. Even then, I bet they shut down soon.

i86hotdogs > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 03/16/2020 at 16:08

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My boxing gym is closed for at least two weeks. They do have home videos for you to use. If you don’t have a heavy bag, or other equipment, there are alternatives. 

ZHP Sparky, the 5th > OPPOsaurus WRX 03/16/2020 at 16:23

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Don’t go. Applies to pretty much anything you don’t NEED to do.

The point of social distancing isn’t just to avoid yourself from getting it (which may not be that big a deal depending on how old and healthy you are), but to prevent the virus from being able to spread (i.e. by using you as a carrier).

Yes it’s a pain in the butt, but many people are hunkering down - not because they love doing it, neither is it because they want to make it more fun for other people to enjoy the restaurants that are otherwise always booked or do fun things that are otherwise too crowded .

Every incremental bit we all do to stay put the more we’re helping each other. 

user314 > Turbineguy: Nom de Zoom 03/16/2020 at 16:23

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I can understand missing the - 25 and - 26, they’re light bombers, more attack aircraft than anything else. Poor B-24 always gets ignored though.

user314 > Ash78, voting early and often 03/16/2020 at 16:27

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Don’t forget the B-52I/B-52J/ EB-52 Megafortress!

Turbineguy: Nom de Zoom > user314 03/16/2020 at 16:29

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Medium bombers actually, even though there were some cool gunship versions that were developed in the the field that led to factory-built mods. 

Ash78, voting early and often > user314 03/16/2020 at 16:34

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Th e B-24 doesn’t get ignored, it actually bursts into flames when it gets angry.

(There’s probably an “everyone forgets about Africa” joke in there somewhere)

Jason Spears > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 03/16/2020 at 17:34

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https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prepare/transmission.html

Person-to-person spread

The virus is thought to spread mainly from person-to-person.

Between people who are in close contact with one another (within about 6 feet).

Through respiratory droplets produced when an infected person coughs or sneezes.

These droplets can land in the mouths or noses of people who are nearby or possibly be inhaled into the lungs.

Then again...

Page last reviewed: March 4, 2020

WTG CDC.

I would be slightly concerned about expelled droplets, but also sweat gets everywhere. If there’s any equipment involved at all, I’d pass.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > GLiddy 03/16/2020 at 18:35

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Yeah. Pretty much.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Jason Spears 03/16/2020 at 18:44

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I just ordered medicine balls and a kettle bell from....wait for it....Amazon!

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > ZHP Sparky, the 5th 03/16/2020 at 18:51

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We’re helping each other. That’s the bottom line.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > facw 03/16/2020 at 18:52

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At Trader Joe’s, they’re keeping a set number of customers in the store and metering them in and out and everyone else stands in a line outside that goes all the way around the store.

facw > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 03/16/2020 at 20:05

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Wonderful. The gym where my physical therapy is has now decided to close, so we’ll see what happens there.

oldmxer > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 03/17/2020 at 01:46

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great pic, if you are a fan there are fan groups on FB, i belong to B36 interest group

Stef Schrader > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 03/17/2020 at 07:36

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Mine shut down all group classes yesterday, asked folks to use every other machine, disinfect things after using them and offered online workouts for those of us who don’t want to risk it . I don’t think it’s all that different than going out to any other place, but yeah. I’m torn because I’m going nuts in my damn house and I think the measures they’ve taken are good, but also, this is a bunch of yikes.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Stef Schrader 03/17/2020 at 09:36

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A bunch of yikes. You put that really well.

I ordered two medicine balls, a kettle bell and a dumbbell for my daughter and me from Amazon yesterday. I have a key to the church building so we can go up there and exercise when nobody’s around.

What’s been yuuuge  has been being a part of this Oppo community in recent weeks. People hanging around and encouraging each other. It’s priceless, really.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > oldmxer 03/17/2020 at 09:41

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There’s an RB-36 at Castle Air Force Museum and I’d never heard of the B-36 before I saw the one there and first time I laid eyes on it I was like, What the heck is that?? They also have an SR-71. They’re an old MAC/AMC base, so many larger, less common acft on display. Looks like they also have a Vulcan...

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Stef Schrader > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 03/17/2020 at 14:56

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Oppo is a good place.

Good list of kit. I’ve been trying to do stuff in the empty bend of the L that is my living and dining rooms. It’s usually the project place, and I guess I’m the project for now.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Stef Schrader 03/17/2020 at 15:16

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I think Oppo environment shifted some weeks back when there was some unfortunate posting, a banishment, and a general desire to have less of that. I think some people went elsewhere. In my case, I rebranded myself with less politics. (I was called O.C. previously.) I am happier here now, and I am glad the shift occurred prior to the current circumstances.

Stef Schrader > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 03/17/2020 at 15:42

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Oh hey! I wondered where O.C.’d been lately. That drama was a bit weird, TBH, but yeah. I like the more courteous shift that’s been around lately, too. I think part of it lately is the realization that we’re all in this bullcrap together, for better or for worse.

oldmxer > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 04/09/2020 at 04:28

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i grew up in FTW and mom would take me down to Amon Carter Field where they had one on display and you could actually go inside unsupervised, not like now